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Plot against the iranian embassy in bangkok and that came through kuala lumpur. state department says equal law lumper is transit point and operational planning point for terrorist operations in southeast asia. the philippines in that part of the world has an islamist insure againsy that has al qaeda roots in it. so there's a lot of reasons to be concerned. hezbollah is operating in that part of the world. so i don't want to rule it out. we just don't have enough evidence at this point. i think we have to include that in when we're looking what may have happened. jon: for all of the complaints...

If it was a deliberate act, wouldn't an that have happened? >> we would have to figure out, was it a pilot who was disgruntled? were there psychological issues or was this an actual terrorist plot, you would think if it was a terrorist plot, that would be some claim of propaganda, some claim of responsibility. the group we were talking about last night, the uighur group or the east turkmenistan independence movement, those groups have conducted terrorist operations against china. i'm not so the enthralled by that theory because these passengers on the plane had testimony different destinations...

Operated through malaysia, which is a transit point as well as a pl planning point for terrorist operations in southeast asia. we also have other terrorist groups active in southeast asia such as al-qaeda. i remember one group responsible for the bali bombing in 2002 and a number of other plots. hezbollah is active in southeast asia, and of course, if you want to tie china in to this, you have the stabbings, the number of people in china. there is an al-qaeda-linked terrorist group called the east turkistan-islamist movement that is active in china. >> scott, what do you think happened here? >...

Taliban wouldn't come back to power. >> greg, the original purpose was, make sure that the taliban doesn't have a safe haven from which to launch terrorist operations. if we leave now, do you think we're going to back on our word to keep that from happening? >> i don't know. i think obama should punish karzai by getting him to enroll in obamacare. they could be misunderstood goat herder, the great news is eric holder is going to make sure they can vote, and they're going to get driver's licenses in new york and california. >> but they won't need those to vote. >> afghanistan is a horrible, hor...

Intractable problem from his perspective. he can't solve it. i want to get out of this. >> why the surge? >> i want it because he was unwilling to tell the generals no. but he contradicted as a number of people said at the time he announces the surge simultaneously announces a withdrawal date. that's a man who doesn't believe in the policy because if he did, he would have announced the surge and not give the withdrawal date. what a signal to taliban and al qaeda if you just hold on long enough we will be gone. >> is afghanistan winnable? >> well. winnable in the sense that to prevent afghanist...