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I think when the story initially broke, the president went under cover and finally came out last friday trying to come up with ways to salvage the program by window dressing, forming a website, for instance, an outside group. and the problem fundamentally is he's failed to explain these programs which are lawful, which have saved lives, which have stopped terrorist plots. he has not adequately explained them or defended them. and now he's in a bit of a mess, and i'll it will you why. because on the heels of the irs scandal, where people don't trust this government, this administration with the...

Have saved lives, which have stopped terrorist plots. he has not adequately explained them or defended them. and now he's in a bit of a mess. i'll tell you why. because on the heels of the irs scandal where people don't trust this government, this administration with their tax records, they sure don't trust this administration with their phone records. i think that's the dilemma the president's in right now. >> do you think reforms will ease public concern or continue to stir the pot? >> well, i think it's a good step in the right direction, but it's still fairly cosmetic. yes, we now will hav...

Disrupt terrorist plots and it does not allow the government to listen to any phone calls without a warrant. but given the scale of this program, i understand the concerns of those who would worry that it could be subject to abuse. >> now the president has a four-point plan to make the nsa more transparent. point one is working with congress to improve the part of the patriot act that deals with collecting phone data, section 215 of the patriot act. point two to figure out how to make sure fisa courts pay better attention to civilerties. those are one it is government goes to for warrants. poi...

Instead of signing an immigration bill, the president is talk about the nsa leaker edward snowden. peter doocy is joiningnous with reaction to president obama's plan, to reform domestic surveillance. hello. >> hello, uma. president obama now has a four-point plan he says will show americans they don't need to worry anymore about the nsa's surveillance program invading their privacy. >> as i said, this program is an important tool in our effort to disrupt terrorist plots. and it does not allow the government to listen to any phone calls without a warrant. but given the scale of this program, i ...

And the least information that details its mission, authorities and oversight. finally, the intelligence community is creating a website that will serve as a hub for further transparency. this will give americans and the world the ability to learn more about what our intelligence community does and what it doesn't do. how it carries out its mission. and why it does so. fourth, we're forming a high-level group of outside experts to review our entire intelligence and communications technologies. we need new thinking for a new era. we now have to unravel terrorist plots by finding a needle in a h...