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An extremist. it looks like what happened was, is that a combination of personal events, namely his bankruptcy or apparent bankruptcy, the loss of his house, combined with the political impact of what's going on in pakistan right now. him returning to that environment, apparently dejected, feeling like he had failed. the combination of those factors was a cocktail that pushed this guy down a road, that it's somewhat unusual. you don't see too many, 30, 31-year-old guys with two kids and a wife joining a jihadic organization and going out on a possibly even suicide mission this person is unusua...

Working at elizabeth arden, doing financial analysis. not someone you think would join a jihadi organization. i don't think when he first came here and became a citizen he was an extremist. it looks like what happened was, is that a combination of personal events, namely his bankruptcy or apparent bankruptcy, the loss of his house, combined with the political impact of what's going on in pakistan right now. him returning to that environment, apparently dejected, feeling like he had failed. the combination of those factors was a cocktail that pushed this guy down a road, that it's somewhat unus...

Bankruptcy, the loss of his house, combined with the political impact of what's going on in pakistan right now. him returning to that environment, apparently dejected, feeling like he had failed. the combination of those factors was a cocktail that pushed this guy down a road, that it's somewhat knuble. you don't see too many, 30, 31-year-old guys with two kids and a wife joining a jihadic organization and going out on a possibly even suicide mission this person is unusual. but i think he fits a new kind of model for recruitment that al qaeda and other groups are going after. he's not the best...

Day he became a naturalized citizen. do you think that warrants some investigation to find out what it takes to be a citizen here and are we giving thorough background checks? >> obviously, yes. i mean, i think it's something that we need to discuss. when you have an instance such as this one, a lot of times, everybody is reacting to the crisis. and trying to solve the last problem. i do think we need to be reflective but there's a lot of things for a while. immigration law is one thing. another thing is the fact that our policing has been basically not as effective as it could be when it come...

Particular incident but are they on top of the whole topic? i don't know. they cut funding for new york surveillance equipment, they've taken the whole terrorism issue and are much more concerned about political correctness than they are about anything, we've taken the point we're profiling, example. we need to profile, not racial profile, we need to terrorist profile. we're patting down granny from grand rapids in the airport line, yet we're not doing something to take out the people who fit the profile of terrorists. bill: k.t., thank you for coming on, come back when you get more, okay? y...