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Which his own pecuniary interests might influence his foreign policy, if his children are still running his company and there's a hotel to be built in dubai, does that influence his reaction if the government of dubai acts in a way we don't want, in turkey or other countries. these entanglements become important, not to mention this a plan strategist who said you start to have anything with a trump name on it around the world becoming an instant terrorist target. how do we react to a world in which the name of the president of the united states is plastered all over hotels and hot spots? >> of...

Non-interventionist candidate. he's going to get pressure from hawks in his party to intervene in the middle east. >> we cannot discount how his personal conflicts of interest wind up influencing his foreign policy. we don't know to what international banks he is in debt. we don't know the extent to which his own pecuniary interests might influence his foreign policy, if his children are still running his company and there's a hotel to be built in dubai, does that influence his reaction if the government of dubai acts in a way we don't want, in turkey or other countries. these entanglements be...

Peace candidate. he will keep us out of a war. >> this is a serious issue and serious times. he has promised to move the embassy. i think he will. he has promised it. there's a coalition here in new york that wants it done. >> kushner is part of it. >> absolutely. i didn't want to be a naysayer. but that's a headliner that overwhelms everybody else's. i hope and pray it doesn't happen. >> i think we were having trouble with michelle's mike. i want to go to you, e.j. you do have the potential any trump property around the world is a terrorist target. >> i think that's a huge problem for him, fo...

Government employees who opt out of being a member of a public -- of a teachers union or any other union be forced to pay dues? >> i think the scott walker strategy in wisconsin, the michigan strategy of eviscera eviscerating unions, that's a top shelf priority of the new administration, if you are coming after the new deal, coming after unions is job one. unions are in for a very, very serious fight. i think it's -- other than drilling in yellowstone and going after the environment, i don't know what to put on the top. unions need to look sharp. >> you know, i know the domestic agenda is ther...

Enjoy our best offers of the year. we're back with the "hardball" roundtable. heidi, tell me something i don't know. >> we're getting no indications that trump is actually going to divest as the ethics experts are urging him to do, so what does that mean in terms of day one? what's the worst possible scenario here? both in terms of national security and potentially violating the constitution. all of these trump buildings are going to need added security. they immediately become terrorist target, potential terrorism targets. >> why? >> because his name is on the building, and if somebody want...