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Some ten years now about once a year. he actually was screened once he came back. they found nothing. we need to now know with abdul mutallab the christmas day bomber and this individual that this is the prototype so we have to be very, very careful. and it's hard. you have 180,000 people going just to pakistan a year from this country, 160,000 coming back. so the key is to develop some screening mechanisms that can screen out people and have some knowledge of what they're doing when they go to another country that is a hot bed for terrorist training. and that means pakistan. it means yemen. i...

They missed? >> we can put things together. they went to the trouble of checking him out on making a condo sale but didn't notice he went over there for five months to get training in terrorism? >> they went to pakistan, but they didn't know -- >> connect the dots. checking him out before and then they saw he went for terrorist training. >> so the question is -- >> one dot would be enough i think. >> sometimes that's true. the question is, did the fbi know that there was a linkage to known organizations over there? was she just visiting his family? >> look, nobody likes -- most people -- a guy...

A terrorist act." the criticism of lieberman is that he's convicting naturalized american citizens before the court actually convicts someone. when you're just charged, you're supposedly innocent until proven guilty. >> wolf, i thought in reading that, he was applying it to all citizens, in effect, and trying to enlarge the law that's on the books now, that if you join a foreign army, you're stripped of your american citizenship, in order to make it easier to avoid the mirandaization of suspects. but i'm sure i'm in league with a lot of other americans. this fella, shahzad, took the oath to be...

Recently became a united states citizen but was born and raised in pakistan and admitted to receiving terrorist training there. a report in today's "new york post" suggest he became radicalized during recent visits to his native land specifically following president obama's increased use of predator drone attacks. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is joining me on the phone from islamabad, pakistan. good afternoon, richard. >> reporter: how are you? >> well, thank you. i am curious about the information you have gathered there. is commissioner kelly right to suggest that shahz...

Flooding more than a 100-year event here. we're surviving. we'll get back storm inial. nashville and tennessee are here. we thank everybody. the president was great. he called on the phone and talked to me. other members of the white house staff have call down here. we're getting a lot of help and people are getting their lives back. >> governor bredesen we appreciate it. we wish the best for you and your entire state. those people certainly need our thoughts and prayers. thank you. new details about the times square bomb suspect and alleged terrorist training in pakistan. terrorism analyst ...