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Fun. >> i can't help it. it is my personality. >> so those crazy ideas on your "survivor" show, come from your mind? >> we're the test audience. i'm somebody who knows scuba diving, and i don't even like to swim. >> well, congratulations, that is a big step forward. >> let me ask both of you this. so you put together this mini series for the history channel. blockbuster, huge, massive historic ratings for the channel. nothing ever higher. why? why do you think it was such a big success? >> clearly, the nation, hungry for god, who loves god. one nation under god. you know and a lot of media pla...

Our most vexing social issues, from women's rights all the way to gay marriage. >> i felt katie couric's suggestion for a bill cosby style comedy show is a wonderful idea, but the shift of perceptions about muslims will require more than just a bill cosby show. that would be a very important factor. >> so also like a muslim jeffersons. >> uh -- >> we got a test audience of the kind of people we would have to win over, average americans. it was time to win some hearts and minds. >> i had them right where i wanted them. >> you got a d in algebra?

Fun. >> i can't help it. it is my personality. >> so those crazy ideas on your "survivor" show, come from your mind? >> we're the test audience. i'm somebody who knows scuba diving, and i don't even like to swim. >> well, congratulations, that is a big step forward. >> let me ask both of you this. so you put together this mini series for the history channel. blockbuster, huge, massive historic ratings for the channel. nothing ever higher. why? why do you think it was such a big success? >> clearly, the nation, hungry for god, who loves god. one nation under god. you know and a lot of media pla...

Fun. >> i can't help it. it is my personality. >> so those crazy ideas on your "survivor" show, come from your mind? >> we're the test audience. i'm somebody who knows scuba diving, and i don't even like to swim. >> well, congratulations, that is a big step forward. >> let me ask both of you this. so you put together this mini series for the history channel. blockbuster, huge, massive historic ratings for the channel. nothing ever higher. why? why do you think it was such a big success? >> clearly, the nation, hungry for god, who loves god. one nation under god. you know and a lot of media pla...

>> i can't help it. it is my personality. >> so those crazy ideas on your "survivor" show, come from your mind? >> we're the test audience. i'm somebody who knows scuba diving, and i don't even like to swim. >> well, congratulations, that is a big step forward. >> let me ask both of you this. so you put together this miniseries for the history channel. blockbuster, huge, massive historic ratings for the channel. nothing ever higher. why? why do you think it was such a big success? >> clearly, the nation, hungry for god, who loves god. one nation under god. you know and a lot of media plays it ...