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Going out there and communicating the new guidance. as she did recently when they changed that isolation period. if you've tested positive for covid-19. that is something that generated a lot of criticism, not just from people who are confused by it, jake, but also from doctors who said, yes, it did need a testing component to it. and so the other thing that we've heard, jake, is this criticism is not just coming from outside the cdc. it's also coming from inside the cdc where it's a lot of career staffers who some of them have worked at the agency their entire lives. and they don't feel like ...

To do here is protect more people and save more lives, whether you work here or at the cdc or the fda. >> is the president okay with the fda making these authorizations without calling their panel of experts? >> again, the fda can speak to their decision making process. >> the florida surgeon general. what is the reaction to his comments that the u.s. needs to unwind its testing psychology? is that sound medical advice? >> i would point to our own health and medical experts and our focus on when they're more available and free to the public. >> is there any reason why the cdc did not include a...

More of them available to american households, putting them out in places like public libraries and community centers and so forth. they are very hard to come by. the question of if you have an asymptomatic case or a case with symptoms that resolve, do you need a test before you go back to the workplace or school or so forth? that testing component is one of the big questions. will that be required? we are waiting to hear. >> kelly, thank you very much. dr. patel, let me turn to you. help us sort through some of the legitimate concerns from some that may be overblown. when you look at where we...

>> we heard the cdc could soon add a testing recommendations to the five-day isolation guidance, was it a mistake to not include a testing component when they released the guidelines the other day? >> wolf, the virus is adapting. the omicron is an adaptation. we need to adapt also. that means changing recommendations in real time, and inevitably without all of the information we wish we had about severity and other factors. the cdc hasn't explained their decision. they are thoughtful decisions, they are judgment calls here, and frankly testing is not necessarily going to tell you yes, get out ...

When 20% of teachers and staff got sick or certain percentage of kids were out. i think that's going to be the case here, that most schools are going to find that they don't have adequate staffing to be able to keep schools going for a period of time. hopefully that will be short, and that the same kind of trajectory that we have seen in south africa with really rapid rise in transmission and then dramatic fall is what we'll see. and that hopefully it will be a matter of weeks, you know, before this starts to die down. >> dr. besser, given the enormous cost of keeping kids home from school, do...