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On the record that you are going to expose what ukraine did in interfering in the 2016 elections. extraordinary stuff that just dropped a few minutes ago. but it shows that it's a much bigger story. it wasn't just an off-the-cuff remark that the president, as he sometimes does, as you and i know, this was all calculated. and then the next day, we have a delegation there, mr. volker himself is in ukraine to try to follow up on what the president said in that call turkey, your >> to your point just then and there, our mutual friend susan glasser writes for "the new yorker." says something along ...

President had to go through him. this is a shadow foreign policy in text form. what is the danger of having a guy like rudy giuliani, a former mayor of new york who is flying around the world with permission, if not with portfolio? >> well, it's completely crazy, let's be honest. he is the president's personal lawyer. he does not do foreign policy, and it's obvious that his own mission here is to get dirt on the bidens and to put together this cockamamy story that the ukrainians were involved in interference in 2016, not vladimir putin. but it's worse than that, brian, because these diplomats,...

Affair. make no mistake. rudy giuliani was placed in charge of ukraine policy and diplomats desperate to get trump to meet with the ukraine president had to go through him. this is a shadow foreign policy in text form. what is the danger of having a guy like rudy giuliani, a former mayor of new york who is flying around the world with permission, if not with portfolio? >> well, it's completely crazy, let's be honest. he is the president's personal lawyer. he does not do foreign policy, and it's obvious that his own mission here is to get dirt on the bidens and to put together this cockamamy st...

A deal that is not good for this country. that is where things stand. >> canada has to make some decision by tomorrow i understand, is that right? >> that is correct. the clock ticks at midnight. if not then basically they'll be a deal that will go forward in text form to the congress that is with mexico as a bilateral deal. in which, in fact, the president prefers bilateral deals anyway. in this case we would love to have canada in. if that happens, if we move forward with that, we certainly continue to talk with the canadians but the problem here is that most of the big issues with canada, i...

Said remember when the recovery started. >> president obama is fundamentally wrong, two little things donald trump and the republicans did, started rolling back regulations, capital that was loosened up to hire people, make capital investments, couple that with text form and that started this economy going in the right direction and wages are going up and the federal reserve has to cool down the economy it is that hot. shannon: thank you both. >> have a great weekend. shannon: george papadopoulos has been sentenced to 15 days in jail after pleading guilty to lying to the fbi but prosecutors wa...