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Horrible situation. but thankfully, medicine is better now addais. joe had a very time talking about it. the times i was around him, he didn't want to talk about it. i'm sure he's dealt with it. but it's very, very hard to see it. you have to understand, when you take the field, whether it's the basketball court, the football field, whatever sport it is, you're taking a risk. when you watch him to jump to block a three-pointer -- >> you're taking a risk, that's the big point. >> for years, i played high school football and college football and i didn't get paid for it. and i would not change t...

>> you were friends with joe theisman. >> he went through a very horrible situation. but thankfully, medicine is better nowadays. joe had a very time talking about it. the times i was around him, he didn't want to speak about it. i'm sure he's dealt with it. but it's very, very hard to see it. we have to understand, when you take the field, whether it's the basketball court, the football field, whatever sport it is, you're taking a risk. and when you watch him to jump to block a three-pointer -- he's done that a million times. >> you're taking a risk, that's the big point. >> for years, i play...