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And i said mark, what on earth is happening on homelessness? we have got to do something. and the next minute you are in the ministers office. bless them all, they received a message and i sent a text saying, hello, i'm just walking down from 70 to your department and they were very nice about it but essentially i sort of took over. and you were in charge of this programme that became known as everyone in, everyone off the street and into accommodation. how do you assess where we have got to? the thing you said at shelter and when you got that firstjob, no one needs to be homeless, if we make ...

Suffer more. and on that tuesday, wednesday, i was in the cabinet office anyway involved with an 0ffice anyway involved with an honours committee i walked round the corner to see the then cabinet secretary and i said mark watson of this happening on homelessness? we have got to do something. find this happening on homelessness? we have got to do something.— have got to do something. and the next minute _ have got to do something. and the next minute you _ have got to do something. and the next minute you are _ have got to do something. and the next minute you are in _ have got to do somethi...

Documents to my law firm at least at that time and at least not any time soon. so, while i'm sure it registered with me that i've got to deal with this, at that particular time, it wasn't anything that was a big deal. >> was there an immediate urgency to the situation on june 7th? >> no. >> and i believe ms. -- testified about your conversation with her. you learned your dad was going back in the hospital. >> that's correct. there was a text -- i can't remember if that text came from my brother, randy, or my brother, john, but they were the ones that were taking my dad back to the hospital tha...

>> did he sound normal to you some. >> sounded normal, yes, sir. >> reporter: normal is how he said alex sounded. wilson told alex he had to call him back later. >> and he said that is fine, no problem. >> reporter: the phone call could be key. prosecutors seem to be showing that alex was allegedly trying to create an alibi after the murders. chris wilson said he called alex back at 9:20 and alex told him he was almost at his mom's house. all of this tracks with prosecutors saying that he left the property where the murders took place about 9:06. alex said he was napping before that and was no...

Us. we do it in a way that we try not to have any difficulties. but i have to say, lives are being lost now. there was a piece that came out yesterday and they believe 500 excess lights have been lost a week because of waiting times. so something has to be done. —— mike excess lives. if they don't solve the pay crisis, they can't solve the crisis of the workforce, so the nhs is on its knees. rishi sunak needs to come to the table. he is the ultimate decision—maker. he is the person that, if this was in an outside dispute in the private sector, we would be speaking. he won't come to the t...