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Sober deliberations. i mean, he decided not to pardon one of his most senior aides, scooter libby. there were people inside his white house very close to him who disagreed with him. to see this president so flip about people over cases and crimes he knows nothing about. >> it's just a textbook case of abuse of power. and it seems to be what this president thrives on. you can imagine being president of the united states and all the capacity that you would have to act and to influence and better people's lives, and this is a president who enjoys pardoning, who enjoys stripping security clearance...

There were people inside his white house very close to him who disagreed with him. but to see this president so flip about pardoning people he never met, never heard of, over cases and crimes he knows nothing about. >> it's just a textbook case of abuse of power. and it seems to be what this president thrives on. you can imagine being president of the united states and all the capacity that you would have to act and to influence and better people's lives, and this is a president who enjoys pardoning, who enjoys stripping security clearances, who wants to have a parade to his glory, as opposed ...

Yesterday you saw sarah going to the podium and taking offenses -- the president in a remarkab remarkable journal interview says that he winked at the russia investigation and he says it was a sham so something had to be done. it was a textbook case and his adviser is looking for a way to explain his action. he eventually just said what he wanted to do any anywaway. that's what's happening here with dan mcgahn and some of these folks have been cplayer sn the probe. had they done anything, it would be notorious and taking away their clearance. that's not what motivates the

Intelligence, james comey, the fbi director trump fired, andrew mccabe, frequent target of the president's attacks. to your knowledge, is it people who were on that list who are next in line or could it expand beyond that? >> that is our knowledge. what we're sensing is folks at the white house are attempting to analyze each of these cases to discern, if we were stripping them of a clearance what rational would we have. yesterday, you saw sarah sanders go to the podium and tip off offenses in her mind mr. brennan committed. she said erratic conduct and wild outbursts. the president in a remark...

It was really one of the most sober deliberations. i mean, he decided not to pardon one of his most senior aides, scooter libby. people in the white house close to him disagreed with him. this president flip about people over cases and crimes he knows nothing about. >> it's just a textbook case of abuse of power. and it seems to be what this president thrives on. you can imagine being president of the united states and all the capacity that you would have to act and to influence and better people's lives, and this is a president who enjoys pardoning, who enjoys stripping security clearances, w...