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Surveillance and he was never a danger at any point, do you buy that? >> this is a pretty textbook operation the way that the fbi does its business and they deserve a lot of credit here. if you're trying to avoid all casualties, once somebody has radicalized, you can't rely on static security measures and those are often going to be insufficient, putting up vehicle barriers, a greater police presence on the street, those are necessary steps, but the single best thing you can do in a counterterrorism situation is stop a plot before it goes operational. >> on that point, before it goes operation...

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These operatives, in this case u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s are trained both in infiltration, and in clearing the target, be able to clear rooms, take out enemy targets, protect civilians and get out of there quickly and effectively. it was textbook operation. that has always not been the case in the past, chris, so a big victory for the u.s. and for special operations forces. a classic operation done perfectly. >> great, michael. bob behr, do we have a sense of how much they were caught by surprise? were they confronted with gunplay? a shootout from the second they got there? >> no, they came in quiet...

You don't know what's on the other side of the door. could be innocent civilians, women and children, terrorists with weapons into your chest or a combination of the two. these operatives in this case, u.s. navy s.e.a.l.s are trained in infiltration into the target and clearing the target precisely, be able to clear roomsing take out enemy targets, protect civilians, gather intelligence and get out of there quickly and effectively. it went textbook operation. that's always not been the case in the past, chris. this is a big victory for the u.s. and u.s. special operations forces. a classic ope...