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Sometimes people are going hard because they've been frustrated and they've been marginalized for so long that it hurts. in 2017 the latest year that we have data for, 52 lgbtq people -- from i should say. 52 lgbtq people in the u.s. were killed as a result of hate violence, an 86% increase from 2016. that's according to a report by the national coalition of anti-violence programs. doesn't mean that you're putting kevin on that level or anyone. but those comments certainly -- the old stuff, i'm saying, certainly don't help. the new way, if you -- if what you're saying, that helps. i did ask ke...

Kind of information. it's something that's not done just in law enforcement cases. this is a really critical capability, even in the global war on terror, you know, overseas when they are identifying insurgents, you know, digital evidence is a key part of what's done there, too. this is a really, you know, well understood capability and yet they will be able to find things. >> we know those investigators are trying to figure out, you know, what his involvement, how he is accused of doing this and why. eric, thank you so much for joining me here on the phone. now, dzhokhar tsarnaev's buddy behi...