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Staff that will stop him from wandering into the oval office. >> steve bannon is like a florentine sculptor, he always needs a patron to do his thing. donald trump was his patron, but the ultimate patron is the mercer family. they bankroll breitbart, steve b bannon. and they are difficulting more towards the center, the koch brothers, and the koch brothers support comprehensive immigration reform and the mercers don't. i think it is a hat field and mccoy dynamic. >> but bannon is out on the

Equipment and fuel costs the same, electricity costs the same. the only way i can have more is to have better equipment. the only way to invest is to be profitable and removes small profits and unable to-- wage gross decreases. >> a lot of businesses seem to do okay. ge didn't pay any taxes, so biggest organizations are finding ways to be circumvent the complexities of tax keyed. as a small business operator, do you get to do those things? >> when president obama came to hat field, pennsylvania, down the street, about a week ago,way discovered by the press and we nigheeded to have

It's not so much ideology, it's a willingness to work with people of the other party who also agree this is a problem that has to be solved and they're willing to take heat for people in their own party as well. stwroo speaking of heat, you have a newed a going after your opponent for a lawsuit she filed 17 years ago against her neighbors in a land dispute. this is real hat field and mccoy stuff. let's watch. i'm not sure what it's about. >> it's very valuable land because it's along the snake river. >> they grazed their cattle there for years and didn't charge them anything. >> i think the fi...

What will be accomplished if we string this out through 2014? >> not much. false security. al qaeda is not there. you look at where al qaeda attacked us from. look at the last attacks, where are they from in from connecticut, from nigeria. a guy from denver. a guy in fort hood. >> so what are we fighting there? >> we are involved in -- that's a civil war. when we went there in 2001, it was the right thing to do, chris. but what we got involved in is someone else's civil war. we intervened and took one side. it is a multisided conflict. there is ethnic things, regional things. a lot of conflict...