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The question wasn't who should provide it. the question was -- >> i'm going to answer it. it s is it a privilege or right? >> it's a privilege. i don't think it's a right that the government provides health care for all people. it goes back to woodrow wilson, a democracy versus socialism from 1887. he said that the role of the federal government can provide and perform better than the individual and that the individual rights come secondary to the needs of society. that'sn underlying fndamental difference of what we stand r. i'm 100% opposed to that. i think everybody should have access to hea...

Stuff is as high as it was during the eisenhower years. >> that's inspect the problem. actually republicans are taking a very unpopular position to say that they would do something on entitlement reform. it's not ant. popular thing to y we're gog means testing, whichoi means that wealthier seniors who have to pay more for social security or medicare. that's not a popular position. it's actually the right thing to do. >> that'sn. showing -- >> putting things off foror another four years, to me, is very irresponsible. and he had such an opportunity to be able -- >> that's what we're saying. >> y...