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And from that bush comes the voice of god. >> reporter: and according to tradition, that miraculous bush is still right here today. >> there's the burning bush. and what is the structure around it? >> well, it had to be enclosed when the area was engulfed with pilgrims. >> and people would come and, what, try to take bits away? >> yes. >> like a relic. >> that's why it's sort of pruned where at first you could reach. >> father justin tells us that st. catherine's, one of the oldest monasteries in the world, has been protecting the bush from relic-hungry pilgrims for more than 15 centuries. >> ...

>> reporter: and according to tradition, that miraculous bush is still right here today. >> there's the burning bush. and what is the structure around it? >> well, it had to be enclosed when the area was engulfed with pilgrims. >> and people would come and, what, try to take bits away? >> yes. >> like a relic. >> that's why it's sort of pruned where at first you could reach. >> father justin tells us that st. catherine's, one of the oldest monasteries in the world, has been protecting the bush from relic-hungry pilgrims for more than 15 centuries. >> are you convinced that this is the burning ...

Voice of god. >> and according to tradition, that miraculous bush is still right here today. >> there's the burning bush. what is the structure around it? >> that had to be enclosed when that was engulfed with pilgrims. >> people tried to take bits away? >> a person could reach. >> father justice tells us that st. katherine's, one of the oldest monasteries in the world, has been protecting the bush from relic-hungry pilgrims for more than 15 century. >> are you convinced this is the burning bush? >> we believe this is place that god revealed himself in such an extraordinary way. >> according t...

Until one day he notices a bush that seems to be on fire, and yet it's not consumed. and from that bush comes the voice of god. >> and according to tradition, that miraculous bush is still right here today. >> there's the burning bush. what is the structure around it? >> that had to be enclosed when that was engulfed with pilgrims. >> people tried to take bits away? >> a person could reach. >> father justice tells us that st. katherine's, one of the oldest monasteries in the world, has been protecting the bush from relic-hungry pilgrims for more than 15 century. >> are you convinced this is th...

Depictions of that st. nicholas. there's a transition where he's accompanied by six to eight black men, who may or may not be slaves, this is a real thing, i'm not making this up. but our santa claus is a collective creation. there's no historical figure, verifiable or not, about which we can make claims. >> exactly, he's a huge hodgepodge, which is why there shouldn't be a problem with taking a different stance on it. >> can i also say this? i thought the jesus thing was interesting too. i do think like the idea that we have -- that we have to, in this society, think about race as these like ...