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Collusion between the campaign and the russians. the truth? how do you explain the manafort allegations as anything but collusion? tonight, an exclusive one on one with president trump's personal lawyer, rudy giuliani. and the other big story, the shutdown, getting bloodier by the day. more pain for people who don't deserve to be in the middle, more signs we'll all feel the pain of the economy. and now the president is feeling it, too. the speaker of the house pushes the president to postpone the state of the union. valid security concerns or political power play by nancy pelosi. that's our ...

They have offered money. and a lot more than $1 for border security. right now the number's at about $1.3 billion, including more bollard fencing, which is what we call the wall. now, it's just a fraction of the $5 billion that the president is asking for, but it's not nothing. now, part of this is on the dems, not because they did the shutdown. this was the president's doing he told you all on national television. but they do keep saying they don't want to fund the wall. in fact, you heard senator schumer say exactly that, it will never pass in the senate, that he'll never get the money for h...

Nobody did nothing. then it turned out that a lot of people did a lot of things. then it was, nobody colluded. where is the collusion? show us the collusion. >> then it was not the president. >> manafort passes the duck test for collusion. remember, collusion isn't a crime. and that isn't moving a goal post. well, if it's not a felony, it doesn't count, don. that's an argument for the attorney to make because it's a political contest and they're trying to lower the bar, but it's pretty obvious. >> i think the collusion is not a crime thing, when you say, chris, you know what i'm talking about,...

Unless they surprise me and they do a fair report, which i'm hoping to god they do. >> and you heard what mr. barr said yesterday about bob mueller, right? he cannot imagine him doing anything that would justify removing him or improper conduct. do you agree with that about bob mueller? >> no, i would not say i cannot imagine. i would say that the president has not removed him and this whole idea of obstruction is really stupid because the investigation has come to an end and nobody has obstructed it. >> i don't think the investigation has come to an end. look how much was redacted in those ma...

>> i have no idea -- i have not. i said the president of the united states. >> now, here's just one of dozens of trump tweets. the russian hoax was that the trump campaign colluded with russia. it never did. the president, his positions must be owned by his attorney. d. lemon, what do you see here? >> i was just doing some homework. he's moving the goal post. of course he's moving the goal post just as in the conversation that you've been having about the shutdown. the president is moving the goal post as well and his supporters are catching on and doing the same thing. yes, he's moving the go...