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>> i think it's a perfectly good excuse for inflicting pain. welcome back to "morning joe." nicole wallace and niles nadal is still with us and moderator of "meet the press" david gregory is with us. >> i don't want to be where passion filled crimes are necessary. >> also with us is nbc news chief white house correspondent, chuck todd, and host of "the daily rundown." >> thank you, ma'am. could i have another? >> here on the set, host of "the cycle" on msnbc. federal prosecutors are demanding years of documents from chris christie's re-election campaign and state republican party is part of ...

Said, but at what point does this give way to other controlled substances? >> chris, we were having this conversation with the attorney general at a veterans' drug court in roanoke, the second such court in the country, and there was some moving testimony there yesterday that the attorney general wanted to highlight of veterans that struggled with substance abuse and his point is these veterans who serve and come back, if they have a personal problem, a social problem, we should first try to treat it that way and use incarceration as a last resort. and he likened that to the approach to mariju...

In the public integrity office of the justice department, prosecuting members of congress, pursuing these cases. i put the question to him, what about the idea that mcdonnells' lawyers have raised that this is just routine politics? there's some back-scratching. and he said, broadly, because he wasn't speaking specifically to this indictment, but he said broadly, he doesn't view it that way at all, this is when there are allegations of bribery or horse trading of any kind, he said that is garden variety, classic corruption. they will pursue it aggressively. >> yeah, it's been very clear that t...

On snowden, he said what any prosecutor would say, sure, we will have conversations about a potential plea but he was very clear when i said the question over whether anything revealed by snowden is good for our democracy or potentially illegal and people say that might make him most of a whistle-blower and he said people are hung up on this and he objects that whole obsession and he looks at him as a defendant. that is what he said. those are strong words from him as a prosecutor. >> ari, good to have you on the show morning. watch more from his interview with attorney general eric holder tod...

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