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Raised the possibility of pardons for cohen. if true those -- joining me is former u.s. attorney for the southern district of new york, cnn legal analyst preet bharara. the president of the u.s. was, according to cohen, effectively offering up pardons to close down the investigation. a, if true, is that obstruction? b, does it matter given he's the president? >> well, those are two very good questions much as i often say on this program, the devil's in the details. it depends how it was said. it depends on the exact words used. it depends on the intentions of the people making the statement an...

He's laid out a merit-based system for imbrags. focusses more nrm with moss puerto ricans. . was listening. what do you care about the new proposals? >> the devil's in the details. the proposal has 500 pages. what's important to note is what mr. kushner and his tam played out that can ut montanaly

Attention to it. with the mueller report, if we'll call it that, now it'swe going to be call the barr summary. the devil's in the details. i think the celebrationon is a little premature. it's a very good day for the president, but let's see what happens, what details are there, and as i can -- >> laura: it's a hell of a long way from the president was committing treason and conspireing with putin against the american electoral system, which is what we hard for two-plus years. >> how could the person who was supervising, rod rosenstein, this investigation, be a person who was talking about wea...

President. with the president, we pay attention to it. with the mueller report, if we'll call it that, now it's going to be call the barr summary. the devil's in the details. i think the celebration is a little premature. it's a very good day for the president, but let's see what happens, what details are there, and as i can -- >> laura: it's a hell of a long way from the president was committing treason and conspireing with putin against the american electoral system, which is what we hard for two-plus years. >> how could the person who was supervising, rod rosenstein, this investigation, be ...

President's lawyers about pardons, and also raises issues about, you know, why it was that he decided to flip so quickly, to come forward, to be so willing to share, you know, all of this bad information that is purportedly true. you know, it raised the issue, did he do that because he was disappointed that he didn't get a pardon? so that does raise those issues. >> and today, you know, there's a lot of talk about, well, what does it mean that his testimony was edited? berit, help me. i'm not surprised by that. you had a joint defense agreement. i'm sure that the lawyers of everybody who had a...