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About, about whether he was telling the truth. and i was sitting there, and the one reason i had the conversation with chris about, you know, the folks who are leading our country -- and, listen, i'm not an ageist. trust me. i would love for our leaders to be of all ages. there are not enough young people serving in congress and the senate, or in both houses of congress. and so when he was -- when they were asking about these terms that were in his yearbook and on and on and he started giving these answers, i sat there, someone who graduated high school two years an kavanaugh, i knew what all ...

Were asking about these terms that were in his yearbook and on and on and he started giving these answers, i sat there, someone who graduated high school two years after kavanaugh, i knew what all of that meant, and no one in that room knew. no one could challenge him on what he was saying about what "fffff" meant, what the devil's triangle meant. and have you ever played quarters? i'm like, what does quarters have to do with the devil's triangle? and the other thing. and there was another thing about what's boofing. do a google search. it is completely ridiculous. what happens if the fbi unco...

Not true. >> and some of the terms they used in the calendar, by the way. >> the devil's triangle thing. he knew damn well. >> and the ffffff there is a meaning to that if you know. there's another meaning of the other thing. >> >> let me say one other thing. >> let him finish. >> all of that says to me that he went into this thing in part to do a performance. >> that was evident. >> she was genuine. he was doing a lot of performance work. >> just really quick to back up -- >> i've got to go because. >> it's about the lie detector test. he said the lie detector tests aren't reliable. in a deci...

Confidence in therjs even with an investigation. >> wouldn't just say yes, bring it? >> yes, of course. because he knows that people go to prison for lying to the fbi. martha stewart did it. that was her crime, lying to the fbi. now also, i can't imagine how you limit this inquiry because he's lied so much. and when he says he never was a blackout drunk, when he says he was a choir boy, renate's alumni was a compliment. the devil's triangle is a drinking game. the fbi can get on wikipedia and figure out that those are all lies. >> are small lies to the fbi okay or could that endanger his curre...

It is tainted forever. brian: my hope is it never gets worse than. this we went to the edge and walk it back on every level because this is out of control. how many people can pick up yearbook in the 50's and have to stand by every comment editor 16 or 17 years old. that's what we're discussing. ainsley: it was all over social media what he wrote in his yearbook and some of them are showing to me and explanations what some of these things mental i was just, what? this is awful. and then when they asked him. brian: you thought it was awful, right? ainsley: when some of my friends were telling m...