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Trump becomes a de facto independent, kind of like a bull moose, if you will candidate. and can win re-election with something like 35% of the vote. so, distancing himself from the globalest the fat cats who want nothing except tax reform for the goldman sachs of the world. i think he's keeping his options open. as a political move, it's not a stupid thing. >> if this is a political move, a different duo on an independent ticket. john kasich and hicken looper. colorado and ohio. do you see it happening? >> do i see it happening? it might happen. they won't win. why would anybody think, and i h...

They are like, are you serious? this is mark where anyone can be president whether they want to or not. >> trump or sanders, right? >> i think we would rather that. i also think it is jeb's unfor the fat only hope -- unfor few natalie -- unfortunately only hope. just talk with no script and it will be all over the news. >> i want to ask something about the middle east in the sense tay there are a lot of people that say oh yeah your older brother. and how with the middle east so disstabilized. >> it goes both ways. your brother got us into iraq. on the other happened, oh my gosh think of how mu...