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Changes in the nfl -- a new hire signals a change of philosophy and a fresh play book to get the team on track. that's what the trump white house opted for this summer, bringing in john kelly to replace reince priebus. here's how kelly described his role back in october. >> i was not brought to this job to control anything but the flow of information to our president so he can make the best decisions. i restrict no one, by the way, from going into see him. but when we go into see him now rather than ones and twos we go in and help him collectively understand what he needs to understand to make...

Writing this book. is john kelly doing a good job? >> you know, kelly -- somebody very close to donald trump told me that john kelly is fred trump reaching from beyond the grave. this is the son that fred trump wished he'd had. gary cooper, he commands respect. he's made the oval office -- he's made the west wing much more efficient and disciplined. but that's the easy part. the really tough question is can he tell donald trump hard truths? and the evidence on that is really mixed when you look at charlottesville and you look at the unhinged twitter tirades that continue. when you look at how ...

Speak hard truths. >> i want to get to how this stacks up to the trump presidency and what your take is on it after interviewing all these men. but i want to talk a little bit more about what's in the book. who is the first modern version of a chief of staff? >> i think it really begins with hr bob haldeman under richard nixon. and of course the great irony about haldeman, he's a fascinating person. he went to prison for the biggest scandal in american history, watergate, yes he wrote the template for the modern empowered white house chief of staff as we now know him. the gatekeeper who gives ...

Yesterday, we first learned about the report that president trump shared classified intelligence with russian officials in an oval office meeting. it's been eight days. i want to welcome in chris whopel, author of "the gatekeepers," and eli lake, columnist for bloomberg view, joining us there from washington, d.c. i want to start with you, here, chris. because, again, in your "new york times" best-selling book, you talk to 17, all of the living chiefs of staff, white house chiefs of staff. there is this article that just posted at "the new york times," it was written by glenn thrush and maggie...

Senator paul raises an important question that i think will carry on for weeks. >> sean: sara, welcome back from vacation. good to see you, john. senator, this is beyond chilling. what did you hear and when you hear the numbers of john and his sara, what does that tell you? >> it is mind-boggling. sources have been telling us for a couple months now that they believe the obama administration was spying on other presidential candidates other than trump and that it may be politically motivated. i don't have the evidence. i haven't seen the evidence but i have requested it. i asked the white hous...