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And fight for the american people and be their voice and it is refreshing to see somebody actually fulfilling the promises that they made. when you look at what we'll be doing on the house floor today, making permanent the hyde amendment, a bill by chris smith. something that so many of us have fought for. if you go back and look for the 40 years plus that the hyde amendment has been in place, peer review studies showed that two million american lives have been saved by the hyde amendment. and so making it permanent is not just important for the moral fabric of our country, but you'll see mill...

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Harder for women to get the health services they need. >> cecile richards is the president of planned parenthood and she joins us live from washington. thank you for joining us. >> thanks for having me. >> let me play what congressman pence the republican from indiana said when he introduced his amendment back in july of 2009. let's listen. >> the time has come to deny any and all federal funding to planned parenthood of america. the largest abortion provider in america should not also be the largest recipient of federal funding under title ten. >> notç long after roe v. wade the hyde amendm...

>> shep: these negotiations must have been mighty tense? >> i would say they are intense. within that, there is some tension. last night there was a significant meeting between the deputy chief of staff and bart stew stupak and there has been dialogues going on all afternoon. stupak says she wants to vote for the bill. it's an open question whether an executive order would provide additional assurance on the question of abortion funding. statute rules, legislative language rules in america, not necessarily executive order, particularly on an issue that has been so thoroughly litigated democrat...

But really no change. what's the purpose? >> well, you have two distinct arguments for why there's an impasse. democrats are saying it has to do with the social policy riders, it has to do with planned parenthood, and it has to do with title ten. they say because of the social issues and the republicans' willingness to defund planned parenthood completely and not give any federal funding towards it and to make cuts in title ten, that they will not move forward on a budget bill. what is title ten? i went to the website and title ten provides contraceptive information and services, gynecological...