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When dick cheney talks about enhanced interrogation techniques, you know they're talking about torture. tonight we're not talking right or wrong. we all know where we stand on that one already. let's talk about one simple issue. does it work? if in a terrible situation where the country has a lot on the line. should the president give the go ahead to give it a try or not? is there a plausible case based on human instinct, human history, what we call common sense that giving someone pain gets them to tell the truth or gets some people to tell the truth? glen carl, a former cia officer and autho...

Specific rules for the interrogator and detainee involved. none of these assurances, which the department of justice relied on to form its legal opinions were consistently or even routinely scari routinely carried out. in many cases, important information was withheld from policy makers. for example, former chairman bob graham asked a number of questions after he was first briefed in september 2002 but the cia refused to answer him, effectively stonewalling him until he left the committee at the end of the year. in another example, the cia in coordination with white house officials and staff w...

Intelligence officials have said it doesn't work. john mccain doesn't believe it works. so people with some expertise make that case. this report should be -- >> i think a common sense answer is, it depends. >> chris, i think you're right. but i would also say this, and i'm going to press this point. i do not favor torture. i do think there is such a thing as coercive, aggressive interrogation methods, short of torture, that work in the hands of a professional who knows how to get somebody to understand they will not get the comfort they want unless they are cooperating. and the way it works, ...

>> i think a common sense answer is, it depends. >> chris, i think you're right. but i would also say this, and i'm going to press this point. i do not favor torture. i do think there is such a thing as coercive, aggressive interrogation methods, short of torture, that work in the hands of a professional who knows how to get somebody to understand they will not get the comfort they want unless they are cooperating. and the way it works, the interrogator knows the answers to most of the questions he's asking. >> if you're encouraging to believe you're drowning, is that torture? >> you know, i t...

In the back of the skull and they're going to think you did it on purpose. >> why would you do that? >> i don't know. >> the way in which this part of the interrogation goes, the creating in the sense of an individual they have all the power is by the interrogator introducing what i refer to as evidence ploys. an evidence ploy is any statement which, if it were true, would link the person to the crime. >> there's a fracture in the back of the skull, okay? and that's not something that happens -- i just doesn't happen without someone being involved and someone knowing that it happened. are you ...