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Clearly had a lot of contact with some interesting russians. whether or not they were engaged in a conspiracy to defraud our government, we'll see. but what we have reported over the last several months makes clear that the president still views this investigation itself as illegitimate and has said privately to his aides that he wishes he could fire rosenstein, that he wishes he could fire mueller, he wishes this would end. i think it was in february, you must forgive me on my memory of the dates, last night feels like last year. >> it's been a blur for you, i'm sure. >> but if my memory serv...

That their status couldn't change and they couldn't become a target at another hour. is there some concern that there's something that could transspire in the course of an interview that could change the president's status? >> well, sure. so he could admit truthfully, which seems unlikely, his role in certain events, including an obstruction of justice. or you can just become a target having been a subject because the prosecutors and investigators learn more about you as time rolls on. these are all categories in which -- and in which people do and can shift. the fact that you're a subject one...

Ultimately kick this to the political process. the other branch of government to handle. because the justice department, again, under this legal finding, is not able to prosecute a sitting president. >> chuck rosenberg, let me ask you about that sound that we played at the top of the show. that was joe digenova. he was a candidate to be added to the president's legal team about the time that if you sort of wind back the clock based on carol and robert acosta's reporting, it would be about the time john dowd would have informed the president he learned from the special counsel that he was a sub...

Clear that the president still views this investigation itself as illegitimate and has said privately to his aides that he wishes he could fire rosenstein, that he wishes he could fire mueller, he wishes this would end. i think it was in february, you must forgive me on my memory of the dates, last night feels like last year. >> it's been a blur for you, i'm sure. >> but if my memory serves, in february the president was speaking about -- maybe it was january -- the nunes memo. again, if anyone remembers that. he was discussing the nunes memo as something that would soften the ground and make ...

>> well, sure. so he could admit truthfully, which seems unlikely, his role in certain events, including an obstruction of justice. or you can just become a target having been a subject because the prosecutors and investigators learn more about you as time rolls on. these are all categories in which -- and in which people do and can shift. the fact that you're a subject one day, nicole, certainly doesn't mean you can't be a target the next. that can come out of your own mouth or it can come out of the mouth of other witnesses. >> jeremy bash, let me read you something a former federal prosecut...