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>> it's interesting, because when democrats win, it's been moderates. there were some progressives that won, but the party is mostly moderate, except you wouldn't know that from what's happening now in washington. >> and that could be a problem. >> gloria, i want to ask you, because the person who is really tamping or helming the progressives' part in this is pramila jayapal asking progressives, and i quote, to stick to the plan. that is a bold message to put out publicly as the house speaker is furiously, feverishly trying to get everyone on the same page. >> right. i mean, look, she's saying...

Covering this if they actually do get to vote. we don't know. it's still up in the air. >> you will not have to stay late tonight. >> don't jinx me, okay, chris? don't say that. let's just say we'll see. let me say this. i think that, and i'm just conveying what's being said in washington. progressives are tired of waiting. they're saying, look, we need all that infrastructure and things in order to compete. we need child care, we need all of those things. we are tired of waiting. we keep giving our -- we keep giving leeway to the moderates in the party, even though the moderates in the party ...

Get him up, get into the weeds with him, try to figure out what is there in there that you think has to go? what is it about the tax package? what is it about means testing? means testing is a big deal to joe manchin. so i think they've been trying to do what they know how to do best and that is work joe manchin, try to get him in a place where he could do more, and i'm convinced that he probably will agree to more. i think that you'llen up seeing a number. the other thing going on behind the scenes that hasn't been talked about much today is they're now floating another kinney reconciliation ...

"the daily beast." jackie, is this a negotiation? when money is being spent in washington, you always have this push and pull. do you think there will be a meeting of the minds between pelosi and manchin, the progressives, et cetera? >> there's going to be a meeting of the minds between manchin and the white house. that's for sure. there's a meeting of the minds that we're always used to. when he published the op-ed in the "wall street journal," a lot of us said, okay, there he is, getting back into negotiations. there's going to be a lot of friction between the house and the senate on this, b...

Our daily lives, which is living wages. we want all of it and not some of it. the cbc, the progressives, have the power. we cannot let one or two senators run this entire democracy into the ditch and have more power than 80 some members. if you combine the cbc and progressive, you've talking about a whole lot of members in the house. so it's time to stand up, it's time to fight back. this is not tiddly-winks. this is about the soul and the future of this democracy. that's why we've got to have pressure in the street, we've got to have pressure in the suites, we've got to have pressure everywhe...