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And politics editor from the root, jason johnson. phil, let me start with you. the president about to head out to cincinnati. going to have one of those giant rallies. we saw what happened the last time. he said afterwards maybe -- he wasn't too happy and maybe he would try to tell the crowd not to do it if they did it again. what is the likelihood the crowd would do this again and what's the likelihood the president would say anything if it does? >> steve, the crowd certainly could do this chant again. i don't know. we will have to see what happens tonight. but the president is unlikely to ad...

Democrats afraid of big ideas. >> let's not just talk about plans that are written for press releases that will go nowhere else. >> identify heard some people here tonight, i wonder why you're democrats. you seem to think there's something wrong about using the instruments of government to help people. >> snap. >> i'm joined by jason johnson, politics editor for the root, darrick hamilton at ohio state and has advised several of these democrats running for president including on policy, sanders, warren harris and booker. ar zerlina maxwell director of progressive programming for sirius xm. nic...

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Redemptive power. that's the phrase that those four women were acting on in the previous tape. these are my people, too. >> yep. >> that is the countertradition that we must find in this moment. >> yeah. and, unfortunately, won't find it in the white house. anan thank you very much. house speaker nancy pelosi meanwhile has had something of a fraught relationship with the same democratic women who trump attacked this weekend. in a tweet yesterday, in response to trump's comments, pelosi said the following. "i reject trump's xenophobic comments meant to divide our nation. rather than attack me...

"i reject trump's xenophobic comments meant to divide our nation. rather than attack members of congress, he should work with us for humane immigration policy that reflects the american values. stop the raids. #familiesbelongtogether." i'm joined by a columnist at "the new york times" and jayson johnson, the politics editor at the root. jason, i'm going to start with you at the table. i think of the wages of whiteness conversation. he is offering them this thing that is more powerful. i think about the democrats now, they seem to have an offer as well, which is we are going to somehow find the...