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This afternoon and 10:00 p.m. tonight, what prevented the attorney general from doing in in normal business hours? >> only yesterday did andrew mccabe meet with the staff of the deputy attorney general. so the deputy attorney general had to take his time with this and then pass it along to the attorney general, who was out of town yesterday. he was meeting with the international association of chiefs of police in nashville and then had another meeting in lieuville and didn't get back until late today. so jeff sessions didn't have a chance to look at this, we were told earlier today this proces...

By justice department prosecutors as part of an effort by the sessions' justice department to take another look at this case. and they're explicitly doing it, because house republicans asked them to, and in a letter last month to house republicans, a senior justice department official said, yes, we're going to look at whether the concerns you are raising in this uranium one matter and the clinton case, merit a special prosecutor. the question really, brian is, is just sessions doing this as a defensive maneuver to sort of molify house republicans and say, yeah, we're going to take a look at th...

Omissions from his security clearance forms. always you get up here, this is the outer end of what a prosecutor might pursue, but you don't leave those years on the table, do you, unless you're expecting real cooperation? >> i think that's exactly right. that you don't leave 50-plus years unattended to unless the substantial cooperation that this witness is going to get you is, as susan's point saying to somebody important or to the core mission of the investigation. so it may not be that it is somebody above him in the food chain. it could be collateral people all around him at his same level...

Table, do you, unless you're expecting real cooperation? >> i think that's exactly right. that you don't leave 50-plus years unattended to unless the substantial cooperation that this witness is going to get you is, as susan's point saying to somebody important or to the core mission of the investigation. so it may not be that it is somebody above him in the food chain. it could be collateral people all around him at his same level, but get to this question of was there collusion, which is the heart of what mueller is there to investigate and/or whether there was obstruction of justice. there ...

States is being undermined, v a vis-a-vis, an important adversary. that's not in our national security interests. it's a pretty big deal, as a matter of fact, and if it results in prosecution will be mueller's decision. >> obviously i am not taking a position as to whether it is or isn't, but that's the standard you have to meet with the american people. the second standard will be this is also supposed to be this will be mainly finding out how the russians did this and stopping them from doing it again. are you anywhere on those questions? >> it was telling on the sessions' testimony, in what...