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>> before i came here today, i stopped at zingerman's which is the -- which is the right thing to do when you're in ann arbor. i stopped for two reasons. the first is, the ruben is killer. so i ordered, like, the small, and it didn't look that small. so i gave half to valerie jarrett who's traveling with us and then after i finished the half, i wanted the half back. but it was -- it was too -- it was too late. all she had left was the pickle. so i took the pickle. but, so one of the reasons i went was because sandwiches are outstanding. the second reason, though, is

Economic stuff. they really set the terms of the debate for these economic debates. >> on the obamacarish urk the other thing that the administration has done is really push their political problems down the road. we've seen delay after delay. those were the really bad stories that were going to come out this year, you know, the small, the medium size employers who will talk about how they are having to pare back the workforce. they are pushing that down the pike and maybe hillary clinton has to talk about that. >> talk about ground how long day, immigration and health care in 2011, 2012 and n...

How much they can be changed just by sheer force of personality. you know, for instance, with the small. you know, the idea of just being against institutions, running against big institutions. one of her first moves after leaving the state department was to join another institution. the clinton foundation. to add her name to that and bring on a lot of its questions and structures. that gets to the first question about accessibility. it seems to be about visibility. but one of hillary's problems might be a little -- or the clintons' problems may be being too accessible for example to donors, t...

Just by sheer force of personality. you know, for instance, with the small. you know, the idea of just being against institutions, running against big institutions. one of her first moves after leaving the state department was to join another institution. the clinton foundation. to add her name to that and bring on a lot of its questions and structures. that gets to the first question about accessibility. it seems to be about visibility. but one of hillary's problems might be a little -- or the clintons' problems may be being too accessible for example to donors, to insiders. so i wonder if th...

I want to know what was it -- who talked politics with their family, how did it go this year? goldie, sounded like you had a particularly interesting family thanksgiving. tell us about it. >> you know, it isn't often but my family came to atlanta from east st. louis and so we had a sort of wild and raucous thanksgiving, a great one, got to spend time with my 80-year-old aunt. her oldest daughter, my cousin, janice, we call her bump, loves president obama and i mean, she idolizes him. she named her shih tzu mr. president. so i meet mr. president, the small, white dog over thanksgiving. and i'm ...