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Talk to your guy." >> reporter: your guy. he could only mean frank jaramillo. but he didn't say the words. didn't say anything incriminating. and so, now he'd try something different. much riskier. time to get "uncle john" involved. coming up, detectives set a trap. >> i'm the one who can keep nick quiet. you need to give me money. >> will he knock into it? >> i don't really have money to help him out. >> when "the trap" continues. . >> when "the trap" continues

Detectives had engineered a face-to-face meeting between the murder middleman frank jaramillo and the suspected mastermind, lynn schockner's husband, fred. this is where frank would attempt to get fred to say something to incriminate himself. except fred was late. had he finally realized they were laying a trap? nothing. if he didn't show this could all fall apart. then a signal from the surveillance van. there he was. >> the guys outside saw him kind of casing the place to make sure he wasn't being -- he was already really paranoid about being setup. >> reporter: clearly. >> came in with his ...

But do i have probable cause? no, i really don't. i've gotta prove more. >> and you couldn't even say that either one of those people was a suspect. >> correct. and you know, i say i was 6'2" when i started, and i was 5'2" when i finished. 'cause there was so much pressure on me to do it and go out and arrest. coming up, fred and frank finally start talking. >> we had like 60-plus phone conversations between them. >> how are you doing, bud? >> it has been a rotten, rotten time. >> reporter: but will it help detectives catch a killer when "the trap" continues. ctives cat "the trap" continues ...

Welcome back to "date line extra." i'm craig melvin. nick harvey had already been arrested and police were circling their wagons around two additional men they believed were involved in the fatal shooting of lynn shockner. nick admitted to killing lynn but investigators thought her husband, fred, and a man known as el cubano had plot ted the attack. detectives didn't have the evidence they needed to prove it, but they were about to set their trap. once again, here is keith morrison. >> reporter: police suspected that fred shockner was the mastermind behind the murder plot of his estranged wife...

He looked so frail. >> reporter: but this wasn't over just yet. when fred schockner took the witness stand he told the jury he could explain everything. do tell. coming up -- >> he was very defiant and completely maintained his innocence. >> will the jury believe him? >> i had a moment of just sitting there and just started crying, hugged my family. >> when "the trap" continues. >> when "the trap" continues nees skip to the good part with alka-seltzer plus. now with 25% more concentrated power. nothing works faster for powerful cold relief. oh, what a relief it is! so fast!