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Politics. it's mandatory in american politics. but a couple of years ago we learned that taking care of veterans could be turned into a convenient political turned int political crisis, and that crisis could be driven on purpose. >> exposing and driving this crisis, you know the crisis of the va. we've been exposing and driving that from the very beginning. that was the head of a group called concerned veterans for america, reportedly speaking at a secret koch brothers conference. that audiotape was posted at the nation magazine by a group called "the undercurrent." that recording was not

Some interesting news from the mandatory in american politics, but we learned that it can also be turned into a convenient political crisis, and that crisis could be driven on purpose. >> exposing and driving this crisis, you know the crisis of the va. we've been exposing and driving that from the very beginning. that was the head of a group called concerned veterans for america, reportedly speaking at a secret koch brothers conference. that audiotape was posted at the nation magazine by a group called "the undercurrent." that recording was not independently confirmed by msnbc, but it has not ...

>> exposing and driving this crisis from the very beginning. driving it. that audio was obtained by an online outfit called the undercurrent, published by the nation. we have not independently confirmed it. we contacted mr. hagstaf this evening to ask if he talked about it. he designedr declined to talk to us and also say where his group gets his money. what we do know just from watching the politics as they play out is that their push to privatize the va is working right now. i mean, it used to be a fringe idea that the politician might float, but then drop. all the leading republican hopeful...

>> exposing and driving this crisis from the very beginning. driving it. that audio was obtained by an online outfit called the undercurrent, published by the nation. we contacted mr. hagstaf this evening to ask if he talked about it. what we do know just from watching the politics as they play out is that their push to privatize the va is working right now. i mean it used to be a fringe idea that the politician might float, but then drop. all the leading republican hopefuls for president who have been asked about it have so far all jumped on board, lots of them all at once. part of the reason...

Crisis from the very beginning. driving it. that audio was obtained by an online outfit called the undercurrent, published by the nation. we contacted mr. hagstaf this evening to ask if he talked about it. what we do know just from watching the politics as they play out is that their push to privatize the va is working right now. i mean, it used to be a fringe idea that the politician might float, but then drop. all the leading republican hopefuls for president who have been asked about it have so far all jumped on board, lots of them all at once. part of the reason for the surprise mainstream...