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The blood was spilled around the time michele disappeared. >> to have forensic scientists get up and speculate and guess at how old blood was based on the color from a photograph is an outrageously unsupported proposition. >> also out, hearsay testimony from prosecution witnesses who said michele told them that cal threatened her life. >> we don't think they belong in the evidence. it's part of the reason the case was unfair the first time, the second time. >> then the defense attempted to present its evidence about that alternate suspect, stacy stewart. and the judge shut them down. the jury ...

>> true. >> did that have anything to do with it as far as people can tell? >> people have to protect their story without looking any deeper and saying, is this really accurate? >> so had the idaho falls police taken a false confession, put the wrong man in prison and failed to find the real killer? no, that just wasn't true said the former detective and later mayor jared furhman. how does he know? it was furhman who took tapp to visit the crime scene, during some of those many interviews all those years ago. >> let me tell you, they weren't in the room with me when he took us up the stairs, t...

>> the fellow got that confession has gone on to become the mayor of town. >> true. >> did that have anything to do with it as far as people can tell? >> people have to protect their story without looking any deeper and saying, is this really accurate? >> so the idaho falls police had taken a false confession, put the wrong man in prison, and failed to find the real killer? >> when we spoke to the former detective and then mayor jared fuhriman, he said, no, not true, and how did he know? it was fuhriman who took tapp to visit the crime scene during one of those many interviews years ago. >> >>...

Right now. so you don't think the timing has anything -- if you -- >> there might have been a better timing, don, but i honestly don't think we'd be talking about this if he wasn't the wrong man. here's the other thing i think is even more significant than the fact that local politicians didn't greet him. if i'm reading the report correctly, congressional leaders, democratic and republican who were invited, said, we don't want to go with you. and, again, that's about the fact donald trump used that rebuke. he has earned that rebuke every day of his presidency up until this point. >> stephen, a...

Visit, that he did console them. some of the people who were there. but given how he was met with protests, do you think that his visit helped heal this community? >> i don't think it helped heal the community, but i have to say i do think it was the right thing. and we wouldn't be asking ourselves if it was the right thing if he wasn't the wrong man. and he's the wrong man for all the reasons peter just talked about. >> the right thing -- the same thing i had with chris. not saying it was not the right thing, but was it the right time? >> i'm not sure what the right time is. i honestly feel l...