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Republican center from georgia johnny isakson was one of the first to raise a flag and that undercuts the president's claim that it's about obstruction. >> the president is saying john tester, democrat from montana, who, by the way, is known as one of the centrists. he works with both sides of the aisle, that he's going to have a big price to pay in montana because of this. if trump's so confident that this was so wrong, why dependents he stand by his guy? why didn't he exercise this famed loyalty that only seems to work one way and this is another example of it? he could've said i don't care ...

Is to blame except the man who chose his personal physician who's never run anything in his life to head the second biggest bureaucracy in the united states government. >> yeah. there's a couple problems with that. >> a couple? >> a couple glaring ones, which is you're setting him up for a very difficult situation, as difficult the job as the v.a. cabinet position is, the president conceding that, yeah, experience would have been an issue and he'd have to deal with that. this is the president who has no experience in government and he's president, so i'm sure he feels like anybody can overcome...

>> so from the beginning, you didn't believe it, you thought maybe it was fireworks or something. nobody believed it. >> yeah, maybe firecrackers, pulling a prank. >> so how did people react? did you learn anything from the fire drill or from the drills that you have that helped you in this particular situation? or is there nothing you can do in a situation like this that can prepare you? >> yeah, we learned, you know, that we need to be silent, phones need to be off, we need to be on the same side as the door, not in sight of the window. we did do that, but, of course, there were tears, there...

>> did you know any of the people who didn't make it? >> i haven't really heard any names. >> you don't know. >> what about you, aidan? >> this wasn't fully confirmed. i heard some people talking about it, i think maybe an officer, my world geography teacher -- >> don't give any names. >> but mr. beegel. >> say again? >> they don't know if one of my world geography teachers did not make it or not. he was on -- he's the first classroom to the right from the stairs where the shooter has entered. and a lot of people suspect that he is gone. there has been no word about him. >> so aidan, how long ...

That's a financial crime. in many states with financial crimes where there is a conviction. they are totally disqualified from being a navigator but that's not the case in california. >> okay. if you and i both live in california i call and this is my navigator and my navigator has access to awful my stuff i realize i'm sort of cooked at that point if that is a bad navigator. a bat apple. even if that navigator isn't working for you does he or she have access to anything that could harm you? >> you know, all the navigators have access to social security numbers, financial information, your hom...