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Sure we don't lose congress to the democrats and we have to be sure we get more senators. >> sandra: politics in the state of iowa where mollie tibbetts was killed senator chuck grassley -- he said districter border security measures including increased personnel. listen. >> stricter border security measures, including increased personnel, enhanced technology, and modernize infrastructure could have prevented this man from crossing the border. in other words, secure the border. stronger interior enforcement and addressing weaknesses in e-verify could have prevented this individual from working...

Could be responsible for this? >> he asked his lawyer to take care of something and expected his lawyer to do it within the bounds of the law. cohen is responsible for his own actions. if cohen knew he was breaking the law, then he had an obligation to tell his client that he is breaking the law. >> sandra: do you agree he changed his story? he is saying he found out after the fact. before he said he didn't know at all. >> let's go with what we do know. >> that he lied. >> that's the tape. lying is not necessarily >> i'm not saying he is going to jail for lying to ainsley earhardt. >> the fact...

Should bring out the graph. look at this. >> sandra: i don't know. maybe karl rove can lend him his white board. >> jon: thank you. facebook is banning a popular personality app saying it mishandled user data. the app makers are firing back. 24/7 crew weighs in on that next. are you a homeowner age 62 or older that would like more money to live on each month? would you like to reduce or eliminate your monthly mortgage payment?

Ainsley about a possible pardon. here was his response and we'll get a quick response. >> are you considering pardoning paul manafort? >> i have great respect for what he has done in terms of what he has gone through. he worked for ronald reagan for years, worked for bob dole, he worked i guess his firm worked for mccain. he worked for many, many people, many, many years and i would say what he did, some of the charges they threw against him, every consultant, every lobbyist in washington probably does. >> sandra: it wasn't a no or a yes, either. >> i'm a consultant and a lobbyist in washingto...

>> sandra: we'll see if we can arrange that. see you again soon. >> jon: new details about the illegal immigrant charged with the murder of iowa college student mollie tibbetts. his former employee said the e-verify system was not used to vet cristhian rivera who is also believed to have faked his identity. matt finn live from brooklyn, iowa. >> jon, rivera's attorney said in court that rivera is in the country legally but so far immigration officials have challenged that saying that rivera never submitted a daca request. there