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Perfect is accepting is he was laughing during that. that is what the judge is addressing now. you know he is not too happy with the conduct of the parties at this point. >> gregg: you don't have to prove motive in the case but earlier on the prosecutor appeared to do that. maybe we can cue up that tape by jeff ashton, how her responsibility was a lie basically, she wanted this fun, happy life. the birth of her daughter interfered with that life. it was very explicit about that. >> that was very compelling. we know it's not evidence. it's not evidence for the prosecutor to sum up. it's not evi...

Lies by what he implied a self-absorbed mother who suddenly had an inconvenient daughter thrust upon her. >> significance of what i'm about to tell you is simply not that casey anthony lied, it's the pattern and the reason that she lies that is important in this case. what you'll see and what i'm going to tell you and what you've heard in this case is when casey is faced with a problem, her solution is to change her lie, to modify it. casey is very bright. you can't take any of that away from her, she is very smart and her lies are very detailed but what you find throughout this case is this p...

Going until 6:00 or 7:00 tonight if not later. >> gregg: stand by for just a moment. i want to bring back into the conversation, julie, a former prosecutor. it's quite interesting. it comes from alice and wonderland where alice falls into this fantasy world and both the is prosecutor, jeff ashton referred to this. i'm looking at it. its trip down a rabbit hole into a bizarre world where you have to believe the defense case, it's pure fantasy. then we hear jose baez talking about how the science on behalf of the prosecution is nothing but fantasy junk science. >> very interesting. first we'll s...

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8:00 in ohio, or at least eastern time, he will be in columbus, ohio, a big rally, another one on a college campus, ohio state university, by his side will be michelle obama. they are trying to rekindle some of that campaign magic and get young voters to the polls after recent polls have shown that younger democrats who voted for the president this time are not as excited about the election. some will sit it out. even independents are leaning republican. the president has more campaign travel on his plate. a big west coast swing coming up in coming days. washington state, oregon, california, n...