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I don't think it's a good appointment nor do i think that the keith ellison is a good appointment. but i would also defend ellison against charges that he is anti-semitic. i heard those charges. i've seen no evidence of that. the interesting thing is that everybody who knows these people likes them. i heard from friends, bannon, they say he's a wonderful guy in person. keith ellison says he's a wonderful guy in person. so these are all politicians who are charming, very good to their constituents. everybody who knows them loves them but we have to judge them by their complete record. america i...

The way to win elections, they are just making a terrible mistake. those of us -- i'm a center liberal, left center conservatives, we're the ones being squeezed out by the movement of the right to the alt-right, the movement of the left to the extreme radical left and i think we need to see a coalition building to move us more to the center, the vibrant center which is what america has always been about. >> professor, you have defended steve bannon against charges of anti-semitism. >> that's right. >> but you have not embraced hi status, his appointment as a senior adviser. explain. >> well, i...