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Information. he thought from his perspective there was an issue, a security issue, about whether a presidential candidate was being blackmailed. when steele finally did get in contact with the fbi, turned out he was not the first person to do so. according to this testimony. quote, they believed chris' information might be credible because they had other intelligence that indicated the same thing. one of those pieces of intelligence was a human source from inside the trump organization. i'm joined by two people who

>> when you talk about comprehensive immigration reform, which is where i would like to get to eventually, if we do the right bill here, we are not very far away. we've done most of it. you want to know the truth, we do this properly, daca, you're not so far away from comprehensive immigration reform. and if you want to take it that further step, i'll take the heat, i don't care. >> did it surprise you to hear donald trump say he's for comprehensive immigration reform? >> that's what he said today. and i'm all for comprehensive immigration reform because we passed such a bill in 2013 in the se...

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Know a thing or two about the department of justice, msnbc justice analyst matt miller, chief spokesman at the doj under president obama. and nbc news national security contributor frank piglusi, former assistant director for counterintelligence at the fbi, under then-director robert mueller. there are questions about who this other intelligence source inside the trump campaign might have been. whether it might be george papadopoulos, the same person who's pleaded guilty to a crime, the same person who allegedly on a drunken night told australian officials who then relayed to american intellig...

Russians -- does anybody have a lightbulb go on and say, wait a second, the russians really are trying to help us win. that's the thing that is missing from all this to me. that anyone with a brain -- there were some people in that operation with one -- would put together at some point. >> well, yes. they could keep claiming that they were just novices who didn't know what they were doing. >> right. >> although one would think that one wouldn't want the government run by such novices. but there were expert people there. there were people with a lot of experience. and they didn't do anything ab...