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Law, the attorney general is not above the law. the president had to answer a subpoena. and believe me, we were worried about who's going to serve the subpoena? and if the president refuses, are you going to send in marshals to gather the evidence? that's a little tricky. it's one thing to send them to manafort's house to gather the information and to serve a subpoena. but going into the white house, you can't just walk in. so -- but you can subpoena the attorney general, and he can be forced to testify. >> i'm going to ask you another question, frank, about some of the things we've learned in...

And that is the individual, mark kerala, spokes man for the legal team for donald trump who quit on his own. he at least is quoted in that book as saying that he felt very uncomfortable on air force one and thought obstruction of justice was being committed. he is an honorable person. he has a good reputation. donald trump does not control him. and if he had an eyewitness account, not just a hunch or an opinion or a third-person gossipy sense, but he saw things, he heard things that he thinks are obstruction of justice. donald trump is cooked. >> yeah, and i can imagine that bob mueller's team...

Michael steele, jennifer rubin, thank you both for joining me, appreciate it. if there's one thing that we know, it's that michael wolff is about to sell a whole lot of books. that makes you wonder which former white house employees may have dollar signs in their eyes. with adt, you can feel safe for only $49.00. that includes security panel, keypad, key fob, entry and motion sensors and for a limited time, get a camera included and installed at no additional cost.

The central lesson is no one is above the law, not even the president. for donald trump to have this view that somehow the attorney general is his personal protector is a highly disturbing view for the president to have. and also shows consciousness of guilt. if donald trump thought this was just a hoax, there's nothing to this investigation, why is he fighting so hard to try to have jeff significants be in charge of it? >> and the question is, one question is, is there anything improper about don mcgann as white house counsel going in and attempting to lobby the attorney general to stay on th...

Is, it's because that specific individual is the one you trust to do what you need done with regard to this special counsel investigation and the russia investigation. >> jill, what is to you the most compelling piece of evidence of obstruction here? is it the writing the talking points for don jr.? the meeting with that russian lawyer who was offering dirt on hillary clinton, and him essentially composing the talking points? is it the firing of jim comey? or could it be the attempt to keep the attorney general in place? >> it's so hard to pick any one thing. because each one of them is a comp...