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There is very few places where you find people feeling that. in beijing, it's such an exciting city right now. the intellectual life is electric with people trying to figure out how they are going to manage this tremendous project forward. they are thinking the unthinkable. see, we seem to just be -- you tell me, ben, survivors don't do this. they -- we seem to just be holding on. just hold on. just hold on. don't let it collapse. hold on. survivors say, let the damn thing collapse. let's go. that's the exit. that's the way out. or that's the way to the future. we seem to be hanging on to stuf...

Sense of urgency. there is very few places where you find people feeling that. in beijing, it's such an exciting city right now. the intellectual life is electric with people trying to figure out how they are going to manage this tremendous project forward. they are thinking the unthinkable. see, we seem to just be -- you tell me, ben, survivors don't do this. they -- we seem to just be holding on. just hold on. just hold on. don't let it collapse. hold on. survivors say, let the damn thing collapse. let's go. that's the exit. that's the way out. or that's the way to the future. we seem to be ...

Here there is no sense of urgency. very few places here you find people -- and beijing is an exciting city. intellectual life in beijing is electric with people trying to figure out how they will manage a tremendous project forward. >> glenn: survivors don't do this. we seem to be holding on. hold on. don't let it collapse. just hold on. survivors say let the damn thing collapse. let's go. that is the exit or that is the way out or that is the way to the future. we seem to be hanging on to stuff. does anybody survive just doing this? >> some people survive just doing that. but it's not a great...

He doesn't spell everything out. he spells absolutely everything out that we've been saying about this movement right in that one sound bite. using cloward and piven to overbelm the system, to destroy it. he claims they need to increase alienation of the working class and oppressed. how do you do that? you need to convince that some people are more miserable than they actually are. you have to pit the haves and against the va- have-nots and have class and warfare and put stress on the overworked system and sit back and watch the whole thing collapse. what is his solution after it collapses? he...

Bucket and the water? he doesn't spell everything out. he spells absolutely everything out that we've been saying about this movement right in that one sound bite. using cloward and piven to overbelm the system, to destroy it. he claims they need to increase alienation of the working class and oppressed. how do you do that? you need to convince that some people are more miserable than they actually are. you have to pit the haves and against the va- have-nots and have class and warfare and put stress on the overworked system and sit back and watch the whole thing collapse. what is his solution ...