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Let this thing implode on its own. i think they need to win elections. >> i disagree. i think republicans need to fight and have a backbone and stop surrendered. >> oh, i think they need to fight. but not this time. >> they did this for good political reasons, 2014. the reason everything's been moved back after 2014 is for politics. >> elections have consequences. we haven't been able to win. the only way to fix it is to win. by the way, bob wants to get out of here because he has a hot date tonight. >> really? >> it's a very personal thing. >> since bob likes to telegraph our personal details...

It is not going to happen. what will happen might be a better strategy is to let this thing crumble under its own weight. once the fines come in and once young people -- >> you can delay -- if you push to delay the individual mandate, i think that could happen. >> now i would like to call on will im. >> i love the one person showing up for the obamacare event. she showed up thinking it was traffic school. the thing is, is it possible to actually shut it down. i don't think it is. the debate is a waste of time. it is like going to the gym and spending an hour doing yoga. all of that effort for ...