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Country. >> who do you believe is most accountable for the current process? the current system? and don't the american people, doesn't the american media bear responsibility for the fact that the american voter and the american information has become so muddied and so weak that the politicians feel like they can get away with this sort of thing? don't we have a responsibility, not just me and the media, but all of us in this democracy, wouldn't thomas jefferson say, if you don't vote and you don't know what's going on, you've got, you get what you've got coming. >> absolutely. we have the resp...

War. they're geographically big, but not the biggest geopolitical player. they've always been with us. they're an important ally when it comes to intelligence gathering, one of the closest in that regard. so i think the administration is fine. i think the president is fine with redirecting how these alliances work. i don't think they like the idea that they're not in control and that these things aren't being handled in a controlled fashion. >> so rex tillerson is now secretary of state. he's not a career diplomat. he's a businessman. so what changes when -- i mean in terms of, this is differe...