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Think if -- michael jackson, i think. and yes, donald trump absolutely. >> absolutely. robot taxes. dave, you said you don't understand what he is saying here. >> am i'm missing something? >> i don't think gates knows what he's saying here. he says the robots being replaced by humans can go into jobs, at the newspaper jobs, the ones needing empathy as the elderly. companies won't mind finding these programs. they can come from the profits generated by having the offset for he says that can come directly from the taxes. well, i don't share his belief that the companies will use these profits to...

But in the middle of it, when you're pursuing a war at the same time and one that is very controversial with the american people, and has been very difficult on our military, i think it's just a disservice, to be frank with you. >> eric, in both of those sound bites, you don't have former administration officials disputing the accounts in the book, what actually happened. they're just expressing disappointment. did that surprise you at all? >> i'm not sure. i don't think gates is going to lie about any of the accounts. he literally, on the one where he said president obama and hillary clinton ...

Like hillary clinton, and frankly from every other cabinet official who ever had any opinion, because they had no input and decisions were made not just without them -- because i don't think they were made so much without them, as without any respect for their input, particularly on questions, as gates reports, of timing. i don't think gates had a big problem with the don't ask/don't tell question. he merely had a problem with how it was rolled out and the lack of regard that the white house had for the institution of the pentagon and the people who worked there. >> that's right, in the contex...

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