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Benefits, they are not going to be spending either. they are going to be out on the seat -- on the streets that is not going to be good for people who have been out for work for weeks and months who have nothing to cover their basic needs with. >> i'm usually for any tax cut, because i want to starve the beast what do you think? >> it takes an employer to create an employee. here we've added one more barrier to the class of people called employers to create employees. this is tragic, even neil acknowledges, 10% unemployment, the soft numbers, people who would like a fulltime job takes the numb...

Thing. some of these states like california, new york, wisconsin to a lesser extent they are in such trouble because of the concessions they made to unions over many years, it is going to take several years to get out of it. even if you start today. >> one thing we should add about wisconsin the governor doesn't want to take anything away from things already made he's talking about promises in the future. what about like in california you have to cut into existing contracts? >> yeah. i give credit to your current governor. because he is putting all options on the table in california -- califor...