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You twice and shook his hand and then the commissioner went onto the podium. tom and i did our radio show on westwood one and the commissioner was coming off the podium tom had his little girl in his arms and bennie hanging on him and little boy and jack his third child at his feet -- first child actually. the commissioner tapped him on the shoulder and said congratulations to him again and tom smiled and said thank you. >> melissa: just a couple of second. any moment you thought he might not shake his hand? >> no, tom is a courteous, gracious, classy guy and he rose above it. >> melissa: than...

Kind of tapped tom on the side of his arm and we turned around and there was the commissioner and he said that was awesome, you were awesome, congratulations and he extended his hand. tom looked down, saw his hand and shook his hand. he said thank you. >> melissa: what was that like? was there tension? people imagined there was going to be. what did it feel like? >> i didn't see the commissioner coming. i don't think tom saw the commissioner coming. maybe it was unexpected but i'm sure he was expecting both of them to see each other after the game if the patriots won. so there was no warmth. t...

>> melissa: so this was one of the most anticipated moments of the patriots win last night. it was the handshake between tom brady who is the super bowl mvp and roger goodell, the commissioner who suspended him the first four games of the season. jim gray was right there in the middle of all of it. it was amazing. you were right between them. jim joins me now. how did you muscle yourself into the moment? it was what everyone was talking about. >> it was unexpected. the game had ended and waiting to go onto the platform was tom brady. tom does a radio show with me every week on monday night foo...

Something he's not willing to reveal. we talk about circumstantial evidence. aaron hernandez is going to spend a long time in jail based on circumstantial evidence. while tom brady, there is no smoking gun that directly links him to the underinflation of footballs, it seems from this wells report that he at least knew what was going on and approved those activities. >> do you believe -- i wan to make it clear, chad, do you believe tom brady knew something something was going on? >> i think he and the equipment guys had an understanding of where tom liked the footballs. did tom say i want those...

Them. and he really did. he was a very, very genuine and compassionate individual. >> and certainly was a long career, and as you said, a lot of people over the course of his career, who could -- who could potentially want to see him dead. i mean, do you think that it has to do with his job, the likelihood that it is his job that is the source of this? >> you know, on my part it would be purely speculation that you would have to believe there's a -- it's very, very likely that it's related to his job, unfortunately. >> did he ever talk about feeling any kind of danger? >> no. he did not. you k...