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Impeachment then so be it. i think what we want to ensure is that this is not a rash decision. impeachments are things that really divide this country and create fractures in our system. i think what we are trying to do, who i think has done an amazing job of being very methodical and making sure you can answer the questions. >> you used to work for jim comey, the fired fbi director. at the time you did that mueller was the fbi director. what's the one thing about now special council mueller that you appreciate but that either the president doesn't appreciate or american people don't appreciat...

Ride or die with the president, and leave it at that. and then eventually when it becomes a point of self-preservation, that's when they start singing like a bird. >> why did roger put out the word he'll never flip? he's also raising money on the internet trying to raise money for his legal defense. he's trying to raise money from the true believers and also saying to trump, pardon me? the president is proven he's willing to use the pardon power -- >> to help his friends out. >> this guy has nixon tattooed on his back. roy cohn going all the way back. he's part of the whole line of infamy. >> ...

Perhaps she didn't consider order to go his white house counsel to have the special counsel fired a discussion. perhaps she was having some word play there. clearly there was a misleading of the american public here as to what was going on. in your timeline, wolf, in june you remember the president's good friend chris ruddy of newsmax, he gave julia woodriff an interview. he basically was reading this story word for word back in june explaining what the president's thinking was and what the justification in his mind was for thinking mueller had to go. >> they rejected that comment. they said i...