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To ask a few questions about where mr zahawi's wealth comes from. he has been a very successful person, by all accounts, has a lot of money, so people have naturally ta ken some public interest examinations of that money, but that was simon and i wrote about the hmrc investigation for the first time. so that was the first we heard about it. that piqued your interest, dan neidle, and you started looking up, looking at it. how much pickup at that time was there in the wider press about the story, dan? so, my initial findings, let's call it a tax anomaly, it looked to me like a naive attempt at t...

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By all accounts, has a lot of money. so, people have naturally taken some public interest examinations of that money, but that was that was when simon and i wrote about the hmrc investigation for the first time. 0k. so, that was the first we heard about it. that piqued your interest dan neidle and you started looking at it. i mean, how much pick up at that time was there in the wider press about the story, dan? so, my initialfindings, let's call it a tax anomaly. it looked to me like a naive attempt at tax avoidance. someone, a very experienced former hmrc inspector, said it looked like man in...