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There's a people who are threatened by an illegitimate leader we have an obligation to go and do something not just idlely speak about it. the bottom line that means he has to do something about bahrain, syria, iran, you think about yemen. all of those situations where their military is being used against their people, in some cases our friends and other cases our terrible bitter adversaries. what is he going to do about this? he's trying to pick and choose which democracy movement he supports? >> sean: he said qadhafi must go. that him remaining in power is unacceptable. here's my question, w...

Paraphrasing, he says, if there's a people who are threatened by an illegitimate leader we have an obligation to go and do something not just idlely speak about it. the bottom line that means he has to do something about bahrain, syria, iran, you think about yemen. all of those situations where their military is being used against their people, in some cases our friends and other cases our terrible bitter adversaries. what is he going to do about this? he's trying to pick and choose which democracy movement he supports? >> sean: he said qadhafi must go. that him remaining in power is unaccepta...

On the side of gadhafi. >> i think we've got to be ready for a longer battle to get him out of there. but it could go more quickly. because his troops could lose their confidence and abandon him. >> and i am confident in the military capabilities that we have as well as other capabilities. for example, jamming his communications. for example, get in some much needed weapons, getting some people trained. getting some people trained. there's a lot of things we can do beside just the air power component of it. so i have great confidence in our capabilities, the most mightiest nation in the world ...

The average soldier that is now fighting for gadhafi that it's a matter of time, i think it's possible -- i emphasize possible -- you could see a rapid situation, a rapid deterioration on the side of gadhafi. >> i think we've got to be ready for a longer battle to get him out of there. but it could go more quickly. because his troops could lose their confidence and abandon him. >> and i am confident in the military capabilities that we have as well as other capabilities. for example, jamming his communications. for example, get in some much needed weapons, getting some people trained. there's ...

Attackers. general barry mccaffrey, msnbc analyst. good to have you, as always. >> morning, alex. >> we have the president laying out this four-year time frame to secure the loose nuclear material. what kind of material is he talking about? and when you talk about trying to secure loose material, do you even know where it all is? >> well, you set the question up appropriately. the feeling of the entire area, weapons of mass destruction, some 12,000 russian nukes, 9,400 russian/u.s. nukes, they're not the major let to international security. there's maybe 250 metric tons of plutonium floating a...