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About the position some cabinet members may be in and secretaries like -- i just question all the time mattis and pompeo and the position they're in. what if they vehemently disagree? what if they veehemently disagre with the president's approach? are there options? >> again, these kind of impossible questions that we're getting now because of this kind of president, but i think the reason i come down on someone like mattis staying is because when you read all these books that have come out in the last year, what you realize is there's so much more crazy going on inside this administration tha...

If he does go. you know, while i agree with a lot of what david's saying, i have to push back a little bit and say i think our relationship with the saudis has been incredibly dysfunctional. it's a little bit like our relationship with china. each side is getting something. it's not entirely a healthy relationship. we have turned our backs on the way we have allowed the saudis to -- >> i agree with that. >> thomas freeman had a wonderful piece in the "times" about this saying this is a time to say who are we? is this a time when you send somebody into the building with a saw? >> i agree with y...

Victory to a balance of african-american and white votes. he couldn't have won without both, couldn't have beat the all white republican party that's been dominating politics down there for decades. this means donald trump politics is beatable. it means we can find decent candidates to defeat indecent ones. as thomas freeman wrote today, in the cultural divisions, our system has always been able to summon our better angels and pull us together to rise to the challenges of the day. well, this is what robert kennedy hoped to do before he was killed in '68. he spoke of all of us working together....

Ongoing investigation as evidenced by law enforcement briefings. many are continuing to change as events are under review. yesterday clark county sheriff joe lombard do told the journal the time line could quote change even more. still ahead on "morning joe," "new york times" thomas freeman joins our conversation. we'll be right back.

Obsolete. millions of truck and taxi drivers of self-driving cars, will it ever be newspaper columnist and news anchors? joining us is thomas freeman, driving in the age of the acceleration author. you are very optimistic in this book. i appreciate that because i love optimism. but i wonder as i read it, or people wired from an evolutionary standpoint to detect this change? >> and technology in particular, is now faster than the average human can adapt. i think people are feeling that acceleration. one of my favorite quotes is, you know, tom, it comes with a sticker on the rearview mirror. obj...