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There making these sales calls. >> i don't know if you've got to watch thomas friedmann on with anderson earlier tonight. he said some poignant things. he thinks that democrats are screwing this up, that they are working on something so exciting but the sales job is terrible. watch this. >> we have a launching pad here. not some giveaway that got whittled from 3.5 to 3 to 2.7 to 2.5 to wherever the heck it is right now. this is so exciting what they are trying to sell and they have so poorly sold it. and that is what really democrats should be asking themselves, how the hell could we be losing...

For lower drug prices. that's a very popular position, particularly in arizona. it's not even -- it's not a progressive position. it's just a popular mainstream position. and so to sort of -- and then the other thing she is opposing is raising taxes on the rich, which again is something that americans support. so to cast it as this fight between progressives and centrists, there is nothing centrist about what she is doing and nothing centrist about what joe manchin is doing, frankly, around the coal industry and wanting to not have, you know, to change course in terms of the coal industry and ...

Coal industry and have training for workers and so they can move into other industries. so i think the way it's being set up, i just -- i don't see it. does that make sense? >> yeah, it does. i think there is nuance and conversation mostly around too far to the left is when he -- when thomas friedmann was talking about defunding the police. if you listen to my conversation with chris, i said america needs those things you mention the. b . >> but not the position of the democratic party, defund the police. >> that was about the narrative. i don't disagree with you. look, i disagree with the way...

Sell, sell e sell. you know, cnn, everything on the air is great and that's wonderful, but if somebody's not selling the ads back there, you are not going anywhere. >> this is my question though to that because what i have been saying is that republicans have been able to sell a lie, motivate people on a lie, and to get people -- get buy-in from a whole lot of people. democrats have as thomas friedmann said, as you have said, a winning message. and the truth. what gives here? why can't they get people to understand and get buy-in and come to some sort of an agreement about what needs to be don...

Number one reason we are having problem with the labor force. women have to choose between their children and job, they pick their children. corporate america ought to be enthusiastic about this. mitt romney said you put people in the work force, they make money, their children, people that have this daycare, have better outcomes. you are going to save money over 15-year period if you have daycare across this country. you're right. and i think tom makes a good point. i made that point previous to this. but now they're selling. sell, sell, sell. you know, cnn, everything on the air is great and...