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And that narrative is going to be there we did it again, we picked another moderate, he couldn't talk the way we wanted him to talk, and we need to go back and get a pure voice. and i suspect that paul ryan may take that same frame. but i think if he loses, the republicans lose seats in the house, you're going to see some rethinking. it's going to take a long time, though, because the fact is, the way the primary and caucus processes work in that party, the extreme wing and they're not conservatives as you have said many times, they're radicals, will continue to dominate in a fashion that will...

It is the most credentialed experts on the manner. thomas man and normal orn steen have been explaining for four decades, and earlier this year, they came to this joint conclusion. quote, we have been studying washington politics and congress for more than 40 years and never have we seen them this dysfunctional. joining me now, the aforementioned most credentialed experts on the matter, norm and tom mann, senior fellow in government studies at the brookings institution, also the co-authors of "it's even worse than it looks" how the american constitutional system collided with political extremi...